This collection features oral history interviews with ISNU and ISU alumni. Records include audio recordings of the interviews as well as transcripts.
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Interview with Edcel Cintron-Gonzalez, doctoral student
Edcel Cintron-Gonzalez
Oral history interview with Illinois State University doctoral student Edcel Cintron-Gonzalez. The interview was conducted by Milner Library intern Paige Malloy on May 22, 2023.
Cintron-Gonzalez provides insights into his upbringing in Puerto Rico, emphasizing the cultural richness and challenges of life on the island, particularly dealing with hurricanes George and Maria. He shares fond memories of Puerto Rican cuisine and educational experiences, highlighting the significance of his alma mater, the University of Puerto Rico at Mayagüez.
Transitioning to his academic journey, Cintron-Gonzalez discusses his passion for children's literature, influenced by his undergraduate studies in English literature and education. He
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Interview with Kierra Peterson, doctoral student
Kierra Peterson
Oral history interview with Illinois State University doctoral student Kierra Peterson. The interview was conducted by Milner Library intern Paige Malloy on June 29, 2023.
The interview delves into Peterson's background, highlighting her upbringing in Chicago and her early education experiences, including attending a private elementary school and a selective enrollment high school. Peterson reflects on her formative years, emphasizing the influence of her family's focus on education and her own passion for helping others, which led her to pursue psychology. She also describes how her high school job at a Jewel-Osco grocery store netted her a college scholarship.
Peterson
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Interview with Nishly López, Class of 2023
Nishly López
Oral history interview with Nishly López, Class of 2023. The interview was conducted during the summer of 2023 by Ayushi Shukla, then a student employee at Milner Library. Born in Chicago, López moved frequently during her childhood before attending Lane Tech High School. Following high school, she pursued an undergraduate degree in Spanish at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign before embarking on a career as a medical interpreter at Carle Foundation Hospital in Urbana. In the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic she decided to leave the medical field and enroll in ISU’s College Student Personnel Administration (CSPA) program.
During
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Interview with Gabriela Vo, Class of 2021
Gabriela Vo
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Gabriela Vo, Class of 2021. The interview was conducted by Milner Library intern Paige Malloy on July 6, 2023.
Vo recounts that she grew up in Vietnam and moved to the United States in 2015 to attend college. She earned a bachelor’s degree University of Wisconsin – Superior, then elected to pursue a master’s degree through ISU’s Clinical-Counseling Psychology program. During undergrad she found community and support through the Gender Equity Resource Center and UWS Alliance, but had a hard time connecting with queer students at ISU. However, she says she felt
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Interview with Rachel Adams, Class of 2020
Rachel Adams
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Rachel Adams, Class of 2020. The interview was conducted on August 4, 2022 by Ryan Cox, at the time an undergraduate student at Illinois State University. Adams describes initially being attracted to ISU's welcoming environment and its blend of large university resources with a smaller campus feel. She discusses her transition from a social work major to English and history and highlights the supportive faculty members who played important roles in shaping her academic journey, particularly Drs. Susan Kim and Katie Jasper.
Adams also delves into her involvement in the campus community,
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Interview with Nastasha Powers, Class of 2019 and 2022
Nastasha Powers
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Nastasha Powers, Class of 2019 and 2022. The interview was conducted during the summer of 2023 by Ayushi Shukla, then a student employee at Milner Library. Powers, a non-traditional student and mother of two, shares her path from initially pursuing a career in nursing to finding her passion in criminal justice and victim advocacy.
Powers, who is originally from Chicago, elected to move to Bloomington-Normal to pursue a nursing degree at ISU after becoming a Certified Nursing Assistant through City Colleges of Chicago. Though she was admitted to the university, she did
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Interview with Paige Buschman, Class of 2019
Paige Buschman
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Paige Buschman, Class of 2019. The interview was conducted on July 14, 2022 by Ryan Cox, at the time an undergraduate student at Illinois State University.
Buschman, who uses she/her or they/them pronouns, was drawn to ISU's graduate program in College Student Personnel Administration (CSPA) due to its reputation and convenience, as she was already familiar with the Bloomington-Normal area from her undergraduate years at Illinois Wesleyan University. They recount their academic journey, initially pursuing a double major in English and biology at Wesleyan but eventually finding their passion in sociology, which
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Interview with Yael Uziel, Class of 2019
Yael Uziel
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Yael Uziel, Class of 2019. The interview was conducted by David Adelman and Jack DuFrane, then students in Dr. Reecia Orzeck’s class Geography 375: Qualitative Research Design and Methods of Human Geography.
Uziel begins by detailing her background; she was born in Israel and moved to America in first grade, initially to Memphis, Tennessee, due to her parents' work in medical research, and later to Illinois for middle and high school. She initially pursued environmental science in college but shifted to geography after being introduced to the RESET (Race, Ethnicity, and Social
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Interview with Max Mae Mostek, Class of 2018
Max Mae Mostek
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Max Mae Mostek, Class of 2018. The interview was conducted by Milner Library’s Digitization Center Coordinator Karmine Beecroft on July 30, 2024.
In the interview, Mostek, who uses they/them pronouns, reflects on their journey through self-discovery, identity challenges, and finding community while attending Illinois State University in the 2010s. Growing up on the south side of Chicago in the largely Irish Catholic neighborhood of Beverly, Mostek struggled to reconcile their emerging queer identity with the conservative environment. Despite these challenges, Mostek recalls having their parents’ support, particularly after a negative experience with
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Interview with Brooke Schumacher, Class of 2017
Brooke Schumacher
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Brooke Schumacher, Class of 2017. The interview was conducted on March 7, 2024 by Aaron Englebretsen and Julia Bell, then students in Dr. Reecia Orzeck’s class Geography 375: Qualitative Research Design and Methods of Human Geography.
After high school, Schumacher spent two years at community college and took a gap year before deciding to attend Illinois State University. She chose geography as her major due to her desire for a career that combined field and office work, engaged with environmental issues, and offered diverse opportunities. Schumacher's career aspirations always leaned towards environmental
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Interview with Nathaline Pheteau, Class of 2017
Nathaline Pheteau
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Nathaline Pheteau, Class of 2017. The interview was conducted on February 29, 2024 by Laine Sullivan and Scott Boyce, then students in Dr. Reecia Orzeck’s class Geography 375: Qualitative Research Design and Methods of Human Geography.
Pheteau describes growing up in the northwest suburbs of Chicago and attending Rolling Meadows High School before taking a gap year to pursue professional dance. Realizing the financial instability of such a career, she decided to further her education and attended Harper Community College before transferring to ISU.
Initially feeling out of place as a transfer
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Interview with Kyagaba David Lwanga, Class of 2016
Kyagaba David Lwanga
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Kyagaba David Lwanga, Class of 2016. The interview was conducted on March 4, 2024 by Jack Panozzo and Will Short, then students in Dr. Reecia Orzeck’s class Geography 375: Qualitative Research Design and Methods of Human Geography.
Lwanga shares his academic journey, which began with him pursuing a degree in chemical engineering at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He later earned an associate's degree in chemistry at Prairie State College, then transferred to ISU with an aim of majoring in renewable energy applications. Influenced by a conversation with Jill Thomas, he
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Interview with Kris Walton, Class of 2015
Kris Walton
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Kris Walton, Class of 2015. The interview was conducted on March 6, 2024 by Kyle Schick and Keirsten Wells, then students in Dr. Reecia Orzeck’s class Geography 375: Qualitative Research Design and Methods of Human Geography.
Walton recalls he initially had no desire to pursue higher education but had to apply to three institutions to meet high school graduation requirements. ISU's on-campus admissions event, particularly a conversation with a Black male representative, positively influenced him by making college seem more realistic and valuable. The prospect of gaining independence and becoming his own
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Interview with Matthew Rillie, Class of 2015 (2021)
Matthew Rillie
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Matthew Rillie, Class of 2015. The interview was conducted via Zoom videoconferencing software on April 13, 2021, by Laura Schultze, then an undergraduate student and member of the ISU Student Alumni Council.
Rillie, who uses they/them or he/him pronouns, describes himself as an active participant in campus life during his time at ISU, emphasizing his involvement in various clubs and advocacy initiatives, particularly within ISU Pride and Diversity Advocacy. They recall a campus culture characterized by passionate student engagement in advocating for better policies and resources while also prioritizing fun. Rillie highlights
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Interview with Matthew Rillie, Class of 2015 (2023)
Matthew Rillie
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Matthew Rillie, Class of 2015. The interview was conducted on July 6, 2023, by Milner Library student employee Ayushi Shukla.
Rillie, who uses they/them or he/him pronouns, provides insights into his early life, his decision to attend ISU, and his experiences during his time as a student. They share that their initial intention in pursing higher education was preparing to become a high school math teacher, but their perception of college shifted over time to focus more on personal growth.
They initially chose to major in math education but later switched to
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Interview with Christina Westbrook, Class of 2014
Christina Fontenelle Westbrook
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Christina (Fontenelle) Westbrook, Class of 2014. The interview was conducted by Milner Library intern Paige Malloy on May 30, 2023, via Zoom videoconferencing software.
Westbrook grew up in a “somewhat rough” neighborhood in Chicago as the daughter of first generation Afro-Columbian parents. Her early love for sports and creative activities eventually sparked an interest in pursing dance movement therapy as a career. Westbrook initially enrolled at the University of Illinois – Springfield as a biochemistry major, but faced difficulties adjusting to the rural environment. After a year and a half, she transferred
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Interview with Brandon Thornton, Class of 2011, 2016, and 2023
Brandon Thornton
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Dr. Brandon Thornton, Class of 2011, 2016, and 2023. The interview was conducted on July 7, 2023 by Milner Library Digitization Center intern Paige Malloy. Throughout the interview, Thornton emphasizes the importance of hands-on experiences, community engagement, and the supportive environment at ISU in shaping his personal and professional growth.
Thornton recalls growing up in Rock Island, Illinois. He first encountered ISU while visiting his brother during Sibling Weekend at the age of 10. His interest in the university grew over time, influenced by positive experiences during visits and recommendations from teachers
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Interview with Jenna Goldsmith, Class of 2008 and 2010
Jenna Goldsmith
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Jenna Goldsmith, Class of 2008 and 2010. The interview was conducted on July 20, 2022 by Emily Deppermann, at the time a graduate assistant at Alumni Engagement.
Goldsmith discusses her decision to attend college, influenced by her family's academic background and her own love for learning. She chose Illinois State University partly due to her father being an alum and wanting to differentiate herself from the family tradition of attending the University of Illinois. Goldman initially majored in journalism but switched to pursuing an English degree due to her introverted nature. She
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Interview with Jennifer Woodruff, Class of 2007
Jennifer Woodruff
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Jennifer Woodruff, Class of 2007. The interview was conducted by Milner Library intern Paige Malloy on May 23, 2023.
Woodruff grew up in Decatur, Illinois against a backdrop of familial challenges. She describes working closing shifts at McDonald’s while in high school and compares her work experiences as a teen to those of her daughter’s. After graduation she elected to pursue a bachelor’s degree in law enforcement with a minor in sociology at Western Illinois University with the hopes of becoming a police officer. She joined the Normal Police Department in the
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Interview with Jonathan Crowley, Class of 2007
Jonathan Crowley
Oral history interview with Jonathan Crowley, Class of 2007. The interview was conducted by Milner Library intern Paige Malloy on June 12, 2023.
Crowley, who grew up in Mahomet, Illinois, had a childhood characterized by a love of reading and involvement in community theater. Their high school years were marked by active participation in theater, music, and various extracurricular activities, which influenced their decision to attend ISU. Upon arriving at the university, they were struck by the beauty of the campus, having previously visited for theater and music festivals.
Initially a theater major, Crowley switched to communication studies, focusing on
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Interview with Andrew Anastasia, Class of 2006
Andrew Anastasia
Oral history interview with Dr. Andrew Anastasia, Class of 2006. The interview was conducted on July 12, 2023 by Rexton Jones, then a student employee at Milner Library.
Anastasia reflects on his upbringing in the southern suburbs of Chicagoland. He characterizes his hometown as being fraught with racial tensions and toxic white supremacy dynamics. Anastasia shares his early passion for music, which initially led him to pursue a degree in music performance and conducting. Anastasia auditioned at several Illinois universities, and although ISU wasn't his first choice, he acknowledges the pivotal role it would come to play in shaping his
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Interview with Rey Spangler, Class of 2005 and 2007
Rey Spangler
interview was conducted on July 24, 2023, by Rexton Jones, at the time an undergraduate student at Illinois State University. In the interview, Jones talks to Spangler about various aspects of Spangler's experiences at Illinois State University, their growth as a writer, and their support for LGBTQ+ students.
Spangler recounts moving to Florida at a young age and returning to Illinois at 16, where they experienced culture shock upon entering a in a small-town high school with conservative values. While their family favored them attending the University of Illinois, they chose ISU because of the beauty of its campus and
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Interview with Maria Luisa Zamudio-Mainou, Class of 2004 and 2016
Maria Luisa Zamudio-Mainou
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Dr. Maria Luisa Zamudio-Mainou, Class of 2004 and 2016. The interview was conducted by Milner Library student employee Rexton Jones on July 10, 2023.
In the interview Zamudio-Mainou, formerly the executive director of the National Center for Urban Education at ISU, reflects on her educational and professional journey. Born and raised in Tampico, Mexico, she pursued an undergraduate education in her hometown before transitioning to a career in banking. In 2000, she moved to Bloomington-Normal to study English at ISU, eventually shifting into the Foreign Languages department’s literature and culture graduate program.
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Interview with Kristy DeWall, Class of 2001, 2003, and 2007
Kristy DeWall
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alumnus Kristy DeWall, Class of 2001, 2003, and 2007. The interview was conducted on July 8, 2022, by Heather Paraday, at the time an undergraduate student at Illinois State University. She discusses how growing up in foster care led her to pursue a college education, serving in the Air National Guard under the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy, her involvement with ISU Pride and Student Government Association, and ISU personnel who impacted her experience in positive ways.
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Interview with Jessica Chambers, Class of 1993
Jessica Chambers
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Jessica Chambers, class of 1993. Chambers has been the director of ISU’s Horticulture Center since it’s establishment in 2005. The interview was conducted by Milner Library intern Paige Malloy on June 1, 2023.
In the interview, Chambers reflects on her personal and professional journey. She begins by sharing some childhood memories and highlighting her connection to the university, as her mother pursued a PhD there.
Chambers recalls attending Thomas Metcalf School and University High School (U High). She emphasizing the stability U High provided during a turbulent time in her life. After
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Interview with Krissie Harris, Class of 1992 and 1993
Krissie Harris
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Krissie Harris, Class of 1992 and 1993. The interview was conducted by Milner Library Digitization Center Coordinator Karmine Beecroft on August 6, 2024.
Growing up, Harris attended public schools in Evanston, Illinois while receiving extra instruction in Black history at home, thanks to her mother’s educational background. Her early interest in construction was nurtured in high school through hands-on classes where she was often the only girl, learning skills that involved math, building, and physical labor. She initially planned to attend one of two Wisconsin schools with strong construction programs but ultimately
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Interview with Tori Farmer, Class of 1991, 1993, and 1997
Tori Farmer
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Tori Farmer, Class of 1991, 1993, and 1997. The interview was conducted by Milner Library Digitization Center Coordinator Karmine Beecroft on August 23, 2024.
Born and raised on the South Side of Chicago, Farmer was the first in her immediate family to go to college. Her decision to attend ISU was influenced by an older cousin’s experience there, and she immediately fell in love with the campus on a visit. Farmer’s undergraduate journey began with her majoring in accounting, a subject she enjoyed in high school, but she ultimately changed to communications
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Interview with Denise Goff, Class of 1990 and 2004
Denise Goff
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Denise Goff, Class of 1990 and 2004. The interview was conducted via Zoom videoconferencing software on August 10, 2023 by Rexton Jones, then an undergraduate student at ISU.
Goff, originally from Aurora, Illinois, discusses her high school years at West Aurora High School, where she found support and solidarity within the LGBTQ+ community, especially through attending movie showings of the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Influenced by her experiences with intolerance, she chose to pursue a degree in psychology at ISU with the goal of counseling LGBTQ+ individuals.
Goff reflects on her involvement
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Interview with Dave Bentlin, Class of 1988 and 1992
Dave Bentlin
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Dave Bentlin, Class of 1988 and 1992. The interview was conducted by then Milner Library student employee Ayushi Shukla in June 2023.
Bentlin shares insights into his life before ISU, his reasons for attending college, and his academic journey from majoring in accounting to history education. He reflects on his experiences as a closeted gay student, navigating challenges on campus and finding support through the Gay People's Alliance (now Pride). He fondly recalls a history of immigration class taught by Dr. Mark Wyman and describes the turmoil that led to the Beer
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Interview with Troy Thiel, Class of 1987 and 1990
Troy Thiel
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Troy Thiel, Class of 1987 and 1990. The interview was conducted via Zoom videoconferencing software on April 19, 2021 by Cyrus Rhodes, then a member of the ISU Student Alumni Council.
Thiel reflects on his deep connection to the ISU and the university lab schools, having grown up on and around campus due to his father's involvement with the Vidette student newspaper. He reminisces about the vibrant atmosphere of campus life, which included attending sporting events, live music performances, and cultural activities. Thiel also shares insights into the university's administration, highlighting the
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Interview with Karyn Aguirre, Class of 1986
Karyn Aguirre
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Karyn Aguirre, Class of 1986. The interview was conducted on July 13, 2022 by Emily Depperman, at the time a graduate assistant in Alumni Engagement.
Despite her initial intention to attend Clark College, an HBCU located in Atlanta, Georgia, Aguirre found herself at Illinois State University because it was closer to home. She decided to major in mass communication with a minor in public relations. Aguirre was also involved in several student organizations while an ISU student, including the Black Student Union, NAACP, National Panhellenic Council, and Delta Sigma Theta Sorority. Aguirre's
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Interview with Robert Goldstein, Class of 1983
Robert Alan Goldstein and April Anderson-Zorn
Illinois State University Archivist April Anderson-Zorn and Robert “Bob” Goldstein, Class of 1983, discuss Goldstein’s tenure as the first Reggie Redbird mascot (1981-1983) via Zoom videoconferencing software on March 15, 2022. Goldstein, originally from Palatine, Illinois, recounts how his decision to attend ISU was influenced by family tradition, as three of his siblings had also attended the university. Upon arriving on campus, Goldstein quickly became immersed in campus life and found himself drawn to the energetic atmosphere of ISU's sporting events. Goldstein shares a humorous anecdote about juggling sports balls while wearing a makeshift costume during the tryouts to become
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Interview with Erin Reitz, Class of 1982, 1985, 1989, and 1994
Erin Reitz
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Erin Reitz, Class of 1982, 1985, 1989, and 1994. The interview was conducted by Milner Library student employee Ayushi Shukla on June 13, 2023.
Born at Mennonite Hospital in Bloomington and raised in McLean County, Reitz attended Normal Community High School for only two years before graduating early. Initially drawn to the engineering program at the University of Illinois, family circumstances led her to ISU, where professors Arthur Paddock and Steven Cox sparked her interest in criminal justice sciences. Having been arrested multiple times for wearing clothing congruent with her gender identity,
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Interview with Stan Shingles, Class of 1982 and 1988
Stan Shingles
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Stan Shingles, Class of 1982 and 1988. The interview was conducted via Zoom videoconferencing software on June 1, 2022, by then Alumni Engagement graduate assistant Emily Depperman. They discuss Shingles’ participation in Upward Bound, his journey to finding his major, and the faculty who advised him along the way.
Shingles begins by discussing his family background, emphasizing the influence of his older brothers, Darryl and Jeffrey, who attended Illinois State before him. He credits their experiences and exposure to college life with sparking his own aspirations for higher education, particularly through programs
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Interview with Barb Dallinger, Class of 1981 and 2001 (2021 interview)
Barbara Lee Dallinger
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Barb Dallinger, Class of 1981 and 2001. The interview was conducted via Zoom videoconferencing software on April 20, 2021 by Andrew Heidenrich, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
Dallinger graduated from Illinois Central College in Peoria, Illinois with a two-year degree in 1978, then transferred to Illinois State University to finish her bachelor’s degree. She describes her academic schedule, which allowed her to balance classes, marching band commitments, and work at Watterson Towers’ Dining Commons. As a transfer student, Dallinger initially felt disconnected from campus social life but found solace
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Interview with Barb Dallinger, Class of 1981 and 2001 (2023 interview)
Barb Dallinger
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Barb Dallinger, Class of 1981 and 2001. The interview was conducted by Milner Library intern Paige Malloy on May 31, 2023.
Dallinger, who grew up in Morton, Illinois, starts by sharing some childhood memories, underscoring her close-knit family dynamics and the small-town environment that shaped her early years. Her decision to attend Illinois State University was heavily influenced by her cousin, who had enrolled six months before her. As an undergraduate, Dallinger majored in piano, and while she had a difficult personal time at ISU due to her sexual identity, she found
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Interview with Inette Dishler, Class of 1979
Inette Dishler
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Inette Dishler, Class of 1979. The interview was conducted by then Milner Library student employee Ayushi Shukla on June 2, 2023. Dishler says her decision to attend college was influenced by familial expectations and her father's determination to provide his children with better opportunities. A chance encounter with an ISU alum led her to visit the campus, ultimately making it her only choice for higher education.
During her time at ISU, Dishler pursued a major in speech communication, having been drawn to the subject matter but initially unsure of its practical applications.
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Interview with David Baker, Class of 1978
David Baker
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum David Baker, Class of 1978. The interview was conducted on October 29, 1983 by Nancy Dattilo, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
Baker reminisces about the casual yet academically rigorous atmosphere of ISU, highlighting events like the Rites of Spring music concert. Regarding university officials, he mentions the positive impact of President Lloyd Watkins and recalls influential professors from the Biology Department, such as Dr. Brockman and Eleanor Dilks. Comparing the educational experience, Baker suggests that while academics may be equally or more challenging in the early 1980s, there
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Interview with Joe McGuire, Class of 1977
Joseph Lawrence McGuire
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Joe McGuire, Class of 1977. The interview was conducted on July 28, 2021, by Kaitlin Sullivan, then graduate advisor of the Student Alumni Council.
McGuire reminisced about his time at ISU during the mid-1970s, highlighting various aspects of campus life and reflecting on its significance in shaping his future. He vividly recalled the eccentricities of campus culture, such as the phenomenon of streaking and the “infamous” Rites of Spring, which featured all-day concerts on the Quad. McGuire emphasized the welcoming environment of ISU, which provided him with numerous opportunities for personal and
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Interview with William Deemer and Debra Merriman, Class of 1977
William Arthur Deemer and Debra Kay Merriman
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alumni Debra Merriman and William Deemer, Class of 1977. The interview was conducted on October 9, 1982 by Deana Grussemeyer, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
Deemer and Merriman reflect on their involvement in student government and the emergence of fraternity and sorority rivalry. They recall the controversy surrounding President Budig's house expenditure, along with memories of notable professors like Judy Boyer and Dr. Borden. Extracurricular activities such as basketball games and intramural sports were significant to Deemer, alongside affordable entertainment options like movies at Capen Auditorium and campus concerts.
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Interview with Robert Kaplan, Class of 1976
Robert P. Kaplan
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Robert Kaplan, Class of 1976. The interview was conducted on October 17, 1981, by an unidentified interviewer. Kaplan remembers the ISU of 1976 as “a free and easy period” that was also “a time of change at the university.” He recalls the construction of new buildings as well as the streaking craze that swept the campus.
Extracurricular activities played a significant role in Kaplan's college experience. He mentions attending football games primarily for socializing rather than for the sport itself, and participating in the intramural program, which provided opportunities for friendly
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Interview with Alan Janssen, Class of 1975
Alan Janssen
Janssen reminisces about the dedicated staff and faculty who prioritized student success and navigated the university through a turbulent period marked by social and political upheaval in the early 1970s. He then he describes the “flagpole incident” that took place on ISU’s quad on May 19, 1970, as Illinois State Police squared off against student protestors demanding the flag be lowered to half-mast in honor of the recently assassinated Malcolm X.
Janssen reflects on the significance of President Gene Budig's leadership in restoring stability and a focus on education after a period of controversy. In his estimation, Budig's personable nature
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Interview with David Hanbury, Class of 1973
David Lynn Hanbury
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum David Hanbury, Class of 1973. The interview was conducted on October 29, 1983, by Mary Graves, then a member of the Student Alumni Council. Hanbury reflects on various aspects of campus life, academic experiences, societal events, and university culture.
He begins by describing the academic landscape during his time at ISU, highlighting a shift in curricular emphasis away from solely teacher-focused programs as well as the prevalent social activism of the era, notably surrounding issues like the Vietnam War. He recalls the presidency of David Berlo and the significant campus infrastructure
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Interview with Ellen Jahn, Class of 1973
Ellen Jahn
Oral history interview with Ellen Jahn. Jahn attended ISU from 1970 to 1972 before transferring to Indiana University to finish her bachelor’s degree. The interview was conducted via Zoom videoconferencing software on June 20, 2022, by Alumni Engagement graduate assistant Emily Depperman.
Jahn begins the interview by explaining her decision to attend college, citing her academic success in high school, her interest in pursuing a teaching career, and the influence of parental expectations. When asked why she chose ISU specifically, Jahn mentions the convenience of its proximity to her home in the Chicago area and its accessibility by train. Initially
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Interview with Lin Hinds, Class of 1972
Lin Hinds
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Linda "Lin" Hinds, Class of 1972. The interview was conducted on July 21, 2022 by Ryan Cox, at the time an undergraduate student at ISU.
Hinds attended ISU from fall 1968 to spring 1972 and majored in elementary education. She initially wanted to specialize in special education but switched due to a lack of opportunities in that field. Hinds describes the challenges she faced finding employment upon graduation, as the teaching job market was oversaturated at that time. She ended up pursuing a career in business instead of teaching, despite having completed
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Interview with James Finley, Class of 1971
James Albert Finley
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum James Albert Finley III, Class of 1971. The interview was conducted on October 17, 1981 by Nancy Magura, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
Finley recalls the excitement of transitioning to university life, emphasizing the sense of independence and the high-quality education offered at ISU. He discusses ISU’s growing pains in the late 1960s and early 1970s as the student body shot up from 8,500 to 18,000 students, including crowded conditions and the construction of new buildings. “It was a good mix of tradition and change” in those days,
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Interview with Jill Hutchison, Class of 1969
Jill Hutchison
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum and retired women’s basketball coach Dr. Jill Hutchison. The interview was conducted on June 28, 2023 by Ayushi Shukla, at the time an undergraduate student at Illinois State University.
Hutchison, born in the Bronx, New York, recounts her upbringing as an “Army brat,” moving frequently due to her father's military assignments. She highlights her exposure to diverse cultures and experiences, including living in Japan immediately after World War II. Her academic journey led her to pursue an undergraduate degree at the University of New Mexico before obtaining her master's degree at ISU
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Interview with Marilyn Judd, Class of 1969
Marilyn A. Judd
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Marilyn Judd, Class of 1969. The interview was conducted on November 3, 1979, by Jan Garey, Class of 1980. Garey was at the time employed by ISU Alumni Services.
Judd reminisces about the rapid expansion of the university during her time as a student, highlighting a 70% increase in enrollment from 1965 to 1969. Despite this growth, she emphasizes the retention of a small university atmosphere characterized by friendliness and strong student-faculty interaction. They also discuss the growth in faculty and support staff, with Judd noting a 93% increase during her
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Interview with Diane Fator, Class of 1968
Diane Marie Fator
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Diane (Rezek) Fator, Class of 1968. The interview was conducted on October 29, 1983 by Patty James, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
Fator reminisces about various aspects of student life at ISU, beginning with the strict regulations imposed on female students, such as “women's hours,” room inspections, and having her skirt length checked before a class. She recalls the transition from President Robert Bone to President Samuel Braden, both of whom she describes as being deeply involved with the student body. Fator fondly remembers the close relationships between
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Interview with John and Judy Harland, Class of 1967
John Harland and Judith Ann Harland
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alumni John and Judi (Hansen) Harland, Class of 1967. The interview was conducted on October 9, 1982, by Verna Corbett, then treasurer of the Student Alumni Council.
Judy recalls the friendly atmosphere on campus and a few small-scale protests against the Vietnam War. They fondly remember President Robert G. Bone for his personable nature. The Harlands discuss notable professors and administrators, such as Dr. Laymon, Dr. Fisher, and Stanley Grupp. They also reflect on the affordability of education in the 1960s, highlighting scholarships and part-time jobs as means of support. John remembers having
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Oral history by James Griner, Class of 1964
James Crawford Griner
Oral history account by Illinois State Normal University alum James Griner, Class of 1964, given in 1979. Griner begins by reminiscing about his transition from “the cornfield canyons of Middle America” to college life, describing it as a humbling experience. He notes that there were three to four times as many female to male students at ISU in 1960, a fact he attributes to the university’s roots as a teacher training college.
Griner shares anecdotes about his involvement with the Blackfriars, a student group akin to a fraternity, detailing their activities, traditions, and close-knit community. He reminisces about the camaraderie,
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Interview with Bette Jane Otto, Class of 1963
Bette Jane Otto
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Bette Jane (Irwin) Otto, Class of 1963. The interview was conducted on October 29, 1983, by Diane Lane, then a member of the Student Alumni Council. Otto describes the early 60s as a “growing period” at ISNU/ISU as enrollment doubled and restrictions were relaxed.
Otto reflects on her memories of campus life, highlighting the strict dormitory rules, including curfews enforced by Honor Residents and Key Girls, as well as the close-knit nature of the student body and faculty. The interview touches on the significance of President Robert G. Bone, who was
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Interview with Richard L. Nimz, Class of 1962
Richard L. Nimz
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Dr. Richard L. Nimz, Class of 1962. The interview was conducted by Milner Library student employee Ayushi Shukla on July 14, 2023, via Zoom videoconferencing software.
Born in Watseka, Illinois, Nimz initially aimed to enter the Air Force Academy after graduating high school, but failed the physical exam due to not having 20/20 vision. He decided instead to become a teacher and enrolled in ISU, where he majored in social sciences with a minor in psychology.
Nimz was involved in many student organizations while at ISU, including Student Senate, Student Union Board,
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Interview with Gary Parmelee, Class of 1961
Gary Robert Parmelee
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Gary Parmelee, Class of 1961. The interview was conducted on October 17, 1981, by Linda Polkow, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
Parmelee recalls ISNU being smaller and more compact in comparison to 1981. The campus was centered around what is now called the quad, fostering a closer-knit community among students. He remembers President Robert G. Bone as a popular figure who oversaw significant expansion in buildings and facilities during his tenure, contributing to the growth of the university.
Parmelee highlights the importance of athletics, especially basketball and baseball,
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Interview with Darrel A. Sutter, Class of 1960
Darrel A. Sutter
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Darrel A. Sutter, Class of 1960. The interview was conducted on July 31, 2023, by Rexton Jones, at the time an undergraduate student at Illinois State University. The interview delves into Sutter's background, his experiences at ISNU, and his teaching career.
Sutter describes his early life being raised on a farm and reminisces about his high school years, where despite farm responsibilities he participated in plays and vocal activities. Upon graduating, he enrolled at ISNU and eventually elected to pursue a career in teaching, having been influenced by guidance from professors
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Interview with Thomas Krones, John Lowey, Roger Weller, and Thomas Wilson, Class of 1959
Thomas Edward Krones, John Richard Lowey, Roger Bruce Weller, and Thomas Dwight Wilson
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alumni Thomas Krones, John Lowey, Roger Weller, and Thomas Wilson, Class of 1959. The interview was conducted on November 3, 1979, by Joyce Wittmus Tartar, Class of 1959.
John Lowey reminisces about the growth of the student body during his time on campus; he graduated with a record-breaking class of over a thousand students. The interview touches upon notable figures in the university administration, including Arthur H. Larsen and President Robert Bone, with special mention of Dr. Larsen's ability to remember students' names.
The conversation delves into various campus activities, such as
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Interview with Ronald Beer, Class of 1958
Ronald Stevig Beer
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Ronald Beer, Class of 1958. The interview was conducted on October 29, 1983, by Barbara Pedersen, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
Beer recalls notable features of campus life, such as women's curfews, the architectural character of Old Main, and the social hub known as "The Cage." He also highlights traditions like the rivalry with Illinois Wesleyan University and the activities of the Blackfriars organization.
The interview delves into the influence of President Robert Bone and his wife Karin, emphasizing their positive impact on the university community during a
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Interview with Lynn Alderman and Ronald Slack, Class of 1957
Doris Lynn Alderman and Ronald Everett Slack
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alumni Doris Lynn (Eadie) Alderman and Ronald Slack, Class of 1957. The interview was conducted on October 9, 1982, by Tom Jakubczak, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
The interview covers various aspects of campus life, providing insights into the social, academic, and cultural atmosphere of the institution during the mid-1950s. Alderman and Slack fondly recall ISU as a small and friendly campus where students knew each other well, emphasizing the personalized nature of education where professors were familiar with their students on an individual basis. They reminisce about President
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Interview with Richard Hackl and Patricia Kopp, Class of 1956
Richard George Hackl and Patricia Kopp White
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alumni Mary Patricia “Pat” (White) Kopp and Richard “Dick” Hackl, Class of 1956. The interview was conducted on October 17, 198 by Heidi Hanson, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
Kopp and Hackl recount their experiences living in the men’s and women’s dormitories on campus. For Kopp in her role as an Honor Resident, this included enforcing a 10 p.m. curfew for female students. Both remember mailing their laundry home to be washed and having to abide by formal dining rules in the dorm cafeterias.
They reminisce about University President
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Interview with Eileen King, Class of 1953
Eileen Edwina King
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Eileen (Schumaker) King, Class of 1953. The interview was conducted on October 29, 1983, by Edna Siebert, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
King recalls a sense of camaraderie and fun among the small student population of ISNU, where everyone knew each other. University President Raymond Fairchild is described as a friendly figure who engaged with students. Notable athletics figures like Clifford “Pop” Horton and Howard Hancock are commended for their dedication to student success. King reminisces about her time as a physical education major, involvement in extracurricular activities
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Interview with Donald Hamilton and JoAnne Paton, Class of 1952
Donald Louis Hamilton and JoAnne Marie Paton
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alumni Donald Hamilton and JoAnne Paton, Class of 1952. The interview was conducted on October 9, 1982, by Linda Polkow, then president of the Student Alumni Council.
Hamilton and Paton reminisce about the small, intimate ISNU campus of their time, contrasting it with the larger, more modern university they visit. They recall the warmth of faculty and the close-knit community, where personal interactions with instructors were common and the campus felt like an extended family. The interview touches on various aspects of campus life, from extracurricular activities like dances and sports to
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Interview with Mary Etta McManus, Class of 1948
Mary Etta McManus
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Mary Etta “Marietta” McManus, Class of 1948. The interview was conducted on October 29, 1983, by Sandi Cupples of the Student Alumni Council.
McManus reminisces about the significant impact of World War II on campus life during the transition from a wartime atmosphere to peacetime. She highlights the scarcity of men on campus during the war and the collective focus on contributing to the war effort. Because of rationing, she says, “we just had to go without.” Despite the challenges, there was a sense of unity and determination among students, who
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Interview with Violet Rians and Lloyd Solomon
Violet Margaret Rians and Lloyd Dale Solomon
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alums Violet Rians and Lloyd Solomon, Class of 1947. The interview was conducted in October 1982 by Lynn Stankiewicz of the Student Alumni Council.
Rians reflects on the scarcity of male students at ISNU during the 1940s due to many young men being in military service, as well as the conversion of the women’s dormitory to Navy V-12 housing. She recalls a generally friendly atmosphere among students and faculty. Solomon describes the challenges of finding housing for himself and his wife and the relief of being able to utilize the GI Bill
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Interview with Dorothy Knous, Class of 1946
Dorothy Marie Knous
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Dorothy “Dottie” Knous, Class of 1946. The interview was conducted on October 17, 1981, by Kathleen Myers, then a member of the Student Alumni Council. Knous recalls being at ISU as “a very happy time for [her].” She mentions respected figures like university president Raymond Fairchild, although personal interaction with him was limited due to his busy schedule. Notable professors and administrators from the music, business, and other departments are remembered with appreciation, highlighting their impact on her education and personal development. She also highlights the assistance provided by Dr. Carrington
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Interview with Marjorie Risser, Class of 1944
Marjorie Alice Risser
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alumnus Marjorie Munns Risser, Class of 1944. The interview was conducted on November 3, 1979, by Denise Cook of ISU Alumni Services.
Risser reminisces about the small student body size of ISNU during her time there, as well as intimate interactions with faculty and staff and the tight-knit campus community. She discusses various aspects of campus life, including academic pursuits, extracurricular activities, campus facilities, and social events. She fondly remembers a number of faculty members and university staff, including Dr. F. L. D. Holmes, Dr. Sorrenson, Miss Yates, Dick Browne, Coach Joe
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Interview with Barbara and John Blatnik, Class of 1943
Barbara Mae Blatnik and John Victor Blatnik
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alumni Barbara Blatnik and John Blatnik, Class of 1943. The interview was conducted on October 29, 1983 by Madonna Curtis, then a member of the Student Alumni Council.
John Blatnik remembers ISNU as a small teacher’s college without a graduate program. He recounts that no smoking was allowed on campus due to fire regulations and drinking was strictly prohibited. The president at the time was Raymond Fairchild, whom the Blatniks describe as an imposing man but able administrator. They recount several influential faculty members and administrators, including Dean Barton, Dean Keaton, Professor
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Interview with John Ryman, Class of 1942
John Franklin Ryman
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum John Ryman, Class of 1942. The interview was conducted on October 9, 1982, by Madonna Curtis of the Student Alumni Council.
Ryman discusses the growth of the university since his time as a student, noting a loss in personal contact due to the expansion. He recalls President Raymond Fairchild as friendly but somewhat aloof, expressing a perception of him as an authoritarian figure. Ryman remembers various professors and administrative officials, highlighting the personal connections he had with individuals like Dean Schroeder, Dr. Decker, and Dr. Carrington.
The interview covers various aspects
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Interview with Mildred Jungels and C. D. "Rich" Richardson, Class of 1941
Mildred Ida Jungels and Clarence Denby Richardson
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alumni Mildred Jungels and C. D. “Rich” Richardson, Class of 1941. The interview was conducted on October 17, 1981 by Jewel Shockey of the Student Alumni Council. The interview covers various aspects of Jungels and Richardson’s experiences at ISNU, including the close-knit community, the emphasis on personal connections, and notable figures such as university president Raymond Fairchild. They discuss extracurricular activities, mentioning organizations like the Women's Recreational Association, Kappa Mu Epsilon, and Kappa Delta Pi. The interview also touches on the cultural and entertainment events of the time, including big band dances
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Interview with Lowell Johnson, Class of 1939
Lowell Merwin Johnson
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Lowell Johnson, Class of 1939. The interview was conducted on November 3, 1979, by Denise Cook of the Alumni Services Office.
Johnson recalls that in 1939 the student body at ISU comprised approximately 1800 students. He notes significant physical changes to the campus between 1939 and 1979, such as the expansion of campus boundaries, growth in athletic complexes, and new buildings like the Student Union and Milner Library.
The interview covers Johnson's limited interactions with university administrators, mentioning President Raymond Fairchild, Dean Herman Schroeder, and others. Johnson's involvement in intramural sports,
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Interview with John Hodge, Class of 1938
John Washburn Hodge
Oral history interview with John Hodge, Class of 1938, conducted by Student Alumni Council member Verna Corbett during Homecoming 1983 at Illinois State University. Hodges reflects on the close-knit ISNU community during the Depression era, emphasizing the strong relationships between students and faculty. He recalls the modest cost of education and the small size of the student body.
Hodge discusses the impact of ISNU President Raymond Fairchild, highlighting his impressive stature and effectiveness as an administrator. He shares memories of faculty and administrators, including Clyde Hudelson, Herman Schroeder, and several other professors. The interview touches on the financial challenges students
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Interview with Lee Stabenow, Class of 1937
Lee Delmar Stabenow
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Lee Stabenow, Class of 1937. The interview was conducted on October 9, 1982, by Diane Amend of the Student Alumni Council. The conversation covers the impact of the Great Depression on student life, as well as Stabenow’s living situation.
Stabenow recalls the physical presence of President Fairchild, his positive impression of faculty members like Kenyon Fletcher and Blaine Boicourt, and his active involvement in extracurricular activities such as Glee Club, marching band, and debate. Stabenow notes that he lived for a time with Coach Clifford “Pop” Horton and his wife Garnet.
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Interview with Bernice Spafford, Class of 1936
Bernice Anita Spafford
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Bernice (Ramsey) Spafford, Class of 1936. The interview was conducted on October 17, 1981 by Jerry Laney of the Student Alumni Council. Spafford begins by reminiscing about the campus of ISNU, noting changes such as the absence of the Old Main building and the expansion of the Student Union. She recalls working in the math office for 25 cents an hour, paid for by the National Youth Administration.
Spafford describes the influence of President Fairchild, who initiated various changes and reorganizations across departments. Discussing notable faculty members, she mentions individuals from
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Interview with William Samp and Randolph Read Hanback, Class of 1935
William Ernest Samp and Randolph Read Hanback
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alumni William Samp and Read Hanback, Class of 1935. The interview was conducted in Fall 1980 by James Russell Steele, then editor of ISU alumni publications. The interview covers various aspects of Samp and Hanback’s time at ISNU, including academic life, extracurricular activities, campus services, transportation, cost of living, and societal changes during the 1930s.
Samp recalls the challenging years of the Great Depression, emphasizing the financial struggles of students during that time. He touches on Presidents Harry Brown and Raymond Fairchild, as well as several professors in the math and science
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Interview with Irene Nordine, Class of 1934
Irene Lavilla Nordine
Oral history interview with Illinois State University alum Irene Nordine, Class of 1934. The interview was conducted during Homecoming 1979 by Denise Cook of ISU Alumni Services.
Nordine notes that the student body in 1934 was much smaller than the record enrollment of 19,576 in 1979 and estimates that her entire graduating class could have fit into one of the larger classrooms on campus. She reminisces about the tradition of singing "Funiculì, Funiculà" in Capen Hall every Monday morning.
Nordine remembers being active dramatics and touches on various student organizations she was a part of like Jesters and Orchesis, as
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Interview with William Kuhfuss, Class of 1934
William John Kuhfuss
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Bill Kuhfuss, Class of 1934. The interview was conducted in Fall 1979 by John Sayer, Director of Alumni Services and Development. Kuhfuss reflects on various aspects of his time at the university and the broader context of the 1930s.
The interview starts with a comparison of enrollment between 1934 and 1979. Sayre notes the substantial growth from around 1,400 students during Kuhfuss’ time on campus to over 19,000 in 1979. Kuhfuss discusses the limited number of faculty members in the 1930s and highlights the impact of influential Agriculture Department professors Clyde
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Interview with Half Century Club Inductees, Class of 1930
Thomas Franklin Barton, Robert Harold Classon, George Robert Means, Roy Benjamin Moore, Carrie Belle Dawson, Sula Susan Splitek, and Margaret Louise Whiteside
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alumni from the Class of 1930. The interview was conducted on May 10, 1980 by an unidentified interviewer. The interviewees discuss various aspects of their time at ISNU, including their memories of President David Felmley, notable faculty members, campus buildings, and the social and economic conditions of the time.
Thomas Barton reflects on President Felmley's influence and the “superior faculty” he assembled at ISNU. Barton also mentions his involvement in building maintenance, including installing bulletin boards in the Science Building (now Felmley Hall).
Robert Classon talks about his positive impressions of President
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Interview with Marian Dean, Class of 1929
Marian Helen Dean
Oral history interview with Illinois State Normal University alum Marian Dean, Class of 1929. The interview was conducted on May 5, 1979, by John Sayre, Director of Alumni Services and Development, on the occasion of Dean’s induction into the Half Century Club (50th anniversary of her graduation). They discussed the historical boundaries of campus, transportation options, and social norms of the time. Dean recalls faculty and administrators that made an impact on her time at ISNU, such as Herman Schroeder, W. A. L. Beyer, and J. Rose Colby. She describes her many extracurricular activities, saying that she was glad to